Being Wise: An Interview

Vocation: they are callings to be human beings. We long to be called to be our best selves, but so much of the messaging that we get culturally is not doing that.

There's this kind of trope now that we should all seek meaningful work. And that's important but it's not going to possible for everyone for the job they do to be in and of itself meaningful. I am very big on the notion of vocation and also opening vocation to be to be how you do whatever you are and how you are in all the spaces, not just your working life."